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7 Questions: Should We Move to Beijing?

As our readership at the Middle Kingdom has grown, we’ve discovered that many people find our blog while they are in the midst of trying to decide whether or not to move to Beijing. This past week I’ve received emails from two different people asking for advice or information about Beijing in preparation for possibly moving here.

So what are the questions you should be asking? I’ve outlined some of the bigger ones below, along with my thoughts based on our experience living here for the past three years.

1. Can I afford to live on the salary I’ve been offered?
I wrote a post a while back about the cost of living in Beijing, and most of that information still holds true. The answer to this question is going to be somewhat dependent on your own life-stage and expectations. You can live really cheaply and gain a rich experience on very little (less than 5000 a month), but if you’re wanting to put money into savings, pay off student loans or other debt, do a lot of traveling while you’re here, or start or raise a family, your needs are going to be higher. If you’ve been offered more than ¥25,000 per month (for 2 people), you’re probably going to be fine. If it’s less than that, plan on living a little more cheaply. These days you can expect to pay between 5000-8000 RMB for a pretty decent apartment that isn’t too far outside the city. Food and transportation is pretty similar to what we paid in America (we use taxis and public transportation now). Kara and I live on less ¥25,000, and we do alright, but sometimes it’s a little tight.

2. My husband/wife has been offered a job in Beijing. How easy would it be for me to find work?
This is a tricky one. There are always English teaching opportunities. Sometimes they are great, but most people, after doing that for a while, decide they would like to do something else. Most international companies either hire people and bring them to China or they hire local Chinese; they aren’t usually looking for foreigners in Beijing to hire. There are other jobs available but not a ton. Bottom line: you can definitely find something, but don’t plan on being too picky.

3. What about schools for my kid(s)?
There are a couple options:

  • Local Chinese School: I know many people who send their kids (especially younger ones) to local schools. Younger kids (pre-school through 2nd grade) tend to pick up the language pretty easily. The downside is that it might be hard on them socially, especially at first.
  • International School: There are some phenomenal international schools in Beijing. There are sports leagues and clubs and most of them have pretty great academic standards. Many are IB accredited. The big ones (ISB, WAB, Dulwich) are wicked expensive (25,000USD per year or more), so if you’re company isn’t going to pay for your kid’s tuition, you might want to pass on those. There are a lot of good smaller schools, too, that are a lot less expensive (IAB, YCIS, BCIS, BWYA, etc.).
  • Homeschool: There is a fairly extensive network of homeschooling families in Beijing, too. For some, the parents teach, others do online schooling, and a few hire a private tutor to teach their kids all subjects. There are several homeschool co-ops that meet once a week for some joint classes and social interaction. If you’ve never homeschooled before and are considering that option, do some homework and be prepared to invest time in your kids like it’s your job (because it will be).

 

4. Will my family hate me if I make them move to Beijing?
Yes… at first. But if you stick it out, I think that they will be very happy for the experience. Most of the people we talk to have a difficult first year in China but really start to enjoy it in their second year. My parents moved our family to China when I was 15 years old and I hated them at first, but now I’m so glad they gave us the opportunity to see the world and experience something so different (and now I’m back, so it must not have been too bad). If you are thinking about moving to China, I’d encourage you to be open to being here for 3 to 4 years; if you leave to quickly, you may never really acclimate and learn to appreciate all the great things about living here.

5. Will I be able to get ______ in Beijing?
Everyone has their own list of things that they consider important life essentials that may or may not be available in Beijing. There is no definitive list of what you can get or where you can get the various food items or products that make you feel at home, but Beijing is a more and more international city every day, and you can pretty much find anything if you’re willing to pay for it. There are still some items that we bring with us from the States, but that list is shorter and shorter every time we go back. Check out the Jenny Lou’s website (Jenny’s is a foreign grocery store) to get an idea of what is available.

6. I don’t speak Chinese. Is that going to be a problem?
Nope, but once you get here you should make an effort to learn some. Many things in Beijing have English and Chinese (it’s not as common outside of the larger cities in China, though). You can really exist quite easily with the barest amount of Chinese language skills.

7. Should I Move to China?

Yes.

What, were you expecting a more complicated answer?

Are there any other major questions that you have/had when making your decision to move to China? Let us know in the comments.

If you’ve made the decision to move consider getting the
Newcomer’s Guide to Beijing. 

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  • Jen February 2, 2011 at 5:08 am edit

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! As we prepare for our move there this Summer, I have come to depend on your blog posts!!! Really! There are so many sights to help, but both of your down-to-earth approach makes it so easy on me!!! I frequent your blog so keep ‘em coming!!!

  • Tanya February 3, 2011 at 11:06 am edit

    I like number 5 – can i get in Beijing? Things have changed SO much. My first year butter was only in a few places, it was very difficult to get cheese, and cream was basically impossible. Now there are so many more large scale grocery stores and some more import stores – you can really get just about anything if you’re willing to pay for it. The list of things I bring from home has dropped to luxuries like my favourite shampoo/conditioner, pasta snacks and Cadbury chocolate. And passionfruit pulp for making pavlova in winter ;)

  • Jae May 12, 2011 at 3:40 am edit

    I see so many posts on China blogs talking about coming for the “experience” of China; what about those who would like to jump ship permanently? Would you say this is this just too crazy of an idea? Ive lived in Japan & Thailand for around eight years, and am thinking about making the move to China or back to the US …

  • Matt May 12, 2011 at 5:51 pm edit

    I don’t think you can really make a decision about living in China permanently until you actually come here. There are some specific cultural aspects of China that really drive some people nuts, but it’s not hard to live here if you have a way to keep a visa and enough income. I know plenty of people who are here permanently or semi-permanently, so no I don’t think it’s too crazy.

  • bob December 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm edit

    hi, how about moving to beijing with a newly born baby? will that be a problem? I mean getting a decent hospital care, getting a taxi to the hospital, etc. any help will be very appreciated.

    thanks

  • Matt December 20, 2011 at 10:26 am edit

    Bob,
    There are some good Wester style hospital options in Beijing (Beijing United Family Hospital, SOS, Amcare). Emergency care I think is always a concern in China because of traffic and the difficulty of finding a cab at certain times. There are many Chinese hospitals in Beijing as well, but most expat families we know stick with the Western ones. Another issue with taxis is that they are not equipped to use car seats. Usually there are no seatbelts in the back seat. Many people will try to find a driver to use occasionally so they can have a car seat. It’s a little more expensive, but may be worth it.
    The one other thing I would recommend for a newborn is to invest in a couple of good air filters for your home.

  • Lola January 19, 2012 at 8:35 am edit

    I was wondering about moving there with a kid going into high school. You said your parents moved you there at 15. Where did you go to school? How long did it take you to get accustomed to it? Did you end up going to University there, or did you come back to the US and go here? I am concerned about the transition from highs school through college between China and the US.

    Your blog’s great. Keep it up! =)

  • Matt January 19, 2012 at 9:20 am edit

    Lola,
    Yes I moved to Beijing when I was 15. I was homeschooled and I personally got connected very quickly to other kids my age. After I graduated I went back to the states for university. My transition back to the states was more difficult than my transition to China, but a lot of that was related to the high school/college transition more than the China/US transition. The situation in Beijing is a lot different now than when I first moved here. There are many more international schools now and a lot more expats now. I would say that the there are definitely difficulties in bringing teenagers here, but I think the experience and opportunities outweigh the difficulties.

  • Rach January 21, 2012 at 5:24 am edit

    I was born in Taiwan, grown up in Canada Chinese. I have gotten so used to living in North America that I had always thought to stay in North America and work here. (on top of that, I have never left home, except for traveling before) However, an opportunity came up for me to work in Beijing. I am only given less than a week to consider this opportunity and have to start pretty much right away. I am thrilled of the opportunity, but am so afraid of the move. Partly is because of the sudden change (unexpected and unplanned) and a fear of the working environment and style in China (Beijing). Partly is a worry whether I would still be able to come back to North America if things don’t work out. Everyone has told me that it is a dog eat dog world there and the work hours are extrememly long. This drops my confidence level and makes me think extra long about my decision to move. Can someone give me some input or share some experience with me on this? Thanks.

  • Matt January 21, 2012 at 12:49 pm edit

    It’s hard to give really specific advice regarding your work situation. Every employer in China is different (just like in the states), but there definitely are different cultural expectations and ideas about work. It sounds like you don’t have much info on what the job will actually be. Make sure to get some details about salary, housing allowance or other perks, vacation and work hours. I think that right now is an exciting time to be in China, but I can understand a feeling of caution in make such a big move. I think you will always have the option of going back to the States. If you don’t currently have a job that you absolutely love I would take the leap (of course we already have actually).

  • Darrell Barnes April 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm edit

    On the subject of schools – it is true that there is a lot of choice for excellent international schools in Beijing. However the big ones (WAB, ISB and Dulwich) are always full and have long waiting lists – and are phenomenally expensive. If you want a great alternative, try BIBA (www.bibachina.org). This is a fast growing international bilingual school near to ISB (Shunyi area) which has a US / China curriculum at HALF the price of the bigger schools. Great if you have to fund yourself or your company has a tight budget.

  • Aleksandra September 29, 2012 at 1:05 am edit

    Hello!
    I’m a Polish high-school student. Currently I’m attending in a senior year. At the end of November I’m moving to Beijing. I’m trying to find a solution how to end the education and pass the secondary school certificate. I also would like to find some job there as fast as possible. I have questions connected with things about moving to Beijing. I’m asking for help, I’ll be really grateful!
    Best regards
    Aleksandra Akścin

  • Matt September 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm edit

    Aleksandra,
    I’m happy to give you whatever advice that I can, but I don’t have very good news for you. The main thing is that you will not be eligible for a work visa unless you have a college degree and two years of work experience. You also cannot get a dependent visa unless you are legally married with a marriage certificate. So if you come to China you will always be dealing with visa issues. You can go to a university and get a student visa and study Chinese, but if you are not finished with High School it will be difficult. There are some study abroad programs for High Schoolers, but for most of those you need to live with a host family and be accepted to the program in advance so it’s probably too late for that. For your own general education I know there are online options, but I’m not very familiar with what they are.

    You other option is to come on a tourist visa. You can usually get a tourist visa allows you to be in China for 60-90 days at a time and is valid for 1 year. You’ll need to leave the country once every 60-90 days (depending on what visa you get) to reset it. Many people go to Hong Kong, Korea or Mongolia. Obviously traveling that often is an added expense.

    I know many people that work as part time English teachers. It sounds like your English is good, but it may be a bit more difficult being Polish, rather that from a native english speaking country.

    I hope that helps. It’s not much good news, but at least you have more to go on.

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